Iraq and antiwar movement(s)

There’s a really good piece by Todd Gitlin on Talking Point Memo's Cafe, in which he describes a more thoughtful anti-war movement — something I suggest all the Old Lefties (and New Old Lefties) should read and heed.

Joe Biden’s position seems to be evolving along these lines, too, another reason to like him. See, for example, this from Alternet:

In a Sept. 6 memo to his Senate Democratic colleagues, Sen. Joseph Biden clearly reveals the state of thinking of these Democratic hawks. It is worth noting the modest, but measurable, evolution in his thinking. He starts by asking the question "are we doing more harm than good by staying in Iraq in large numbers?" exactly the question all fence-sitters come to sooner or later.